@ZANFO ha scritto: Più la guardo e più mi piace...anche se poi ci sarà il fattore di "vederla dal vivo"....perchè, non so a voi, ma a me tante volte un mezzo è piaciuto moltissimo in foto e poi per niente dal vivo facendoci l'occhio...chiaro che può succedere anche l'opposto
Il Wrangler è un po' come una figa...Magari il JL è un "bello de notte"
Comunque è saltato fuori qualcosa anche del JT:
Ruota di scorta sotto nel pianale del cassone?
Più che altro, dietro vedo che non è come il JK, ma non è neanche come un vero pickup da lavoro, dietro balestre non ne vedo
Il JT mi ispira parecchio, ma dubito che lo importeranno mai qui da noi, poi, parliamoci chiaro, dovrebbe uscire di serie con delle 34" tipo il Ram o gli altri pickup o sarebbe tremendamente sproporzionato.
Dimenticavo, non ho voglia di tradurre visto che non sono proprio due righe ma penso si capisca benissimo, qua ci sono le info sul nuovo modello, quando uscirà, quando verrà presentato e le prime opzioni disponibili, oltre agli allestimenti:
Ordering / Production Schedule
2018 Wrangler JL / JLU:
September-November 2017: 2018 Wrangler JL / JLU Sales and Press Launch
October/November 2017: 2018 Wrangler JL / JLU Order Banks Open
October 16, 2017: 2018 Wrangler JL / JLU Production Begins
Mid-Late December 2017: Production models arrive at dealerships
Debuts at LA Auto Show (Nov 28 or 29, confirmed by Jeep CEO Mike Manley)
2019 Wrangler JT Pickup:
August 2018: 2019 JT Wrangler Pickup Truck Order Banks Open
October 2018: 2019 JT Wrangler Pickup Truck Production Begins (See Thread For More Info)
Models / Trims
JL Sport (2 Door)
JL Rubicon (2 Door)
JL Unlimited Sport (4 Door)
JL Unlimited Sahara (4 Door)
JL Unlimited Rubicon (4 Door)
No more 2-door JL Sahara trim (see confirmation)
Features / Specifications
New Features (for North America):
Engine/Transmission:
New Chrysler Version of ZF 8 Speed Transmission (850RE)
3.6L Pentastar V6 24V VVT Upgraded Engine (with new 850RE transmission); Comes standard with Engine Start-Stop (ESS) technology (See Thread For More Info) that can be turned off but will default to "on" with each ignition cycle (visual confirmation)
2.0L "Hurricane" I4 DOHC DI Turbo Engine with BSG (Belt Starter Generator) and new 850RE transmission) (visual confirmation) (no manual option)
3.0L VM V6 Turbo Diesel Engine with Engine Start-Stop (3rd Generation) with new 8HP75 transmission (late 2019MY availability, pending EPA certification).
Infotainment/Technology:
New fourth-generation Uconnect 8.4" navigation system with Apple Carplay and Android Auto
5-inch (UAA) Base Radio Touchscreen (with hard buttons)
7-inch (UAG) Touchscreen Upgrade Option (no hard buttons)
8.4-inch (UAQ) Top End Navigation System (optional without nav) (no hard buttons)
8.4-inch will come with the new Off-Road Pages providing useful info regarding the JL Wrangler’s off-road systems -- including wheel articulation, transfer case status, pitch and roll, transmission temperature, suspension, and monitor the basic essentials like oil and coolant temperatures, oil pressure and battery voltage
Alpine Audio System Returns
Customizable Color TFT Display with Telemetry Data (7" and up)
Touchscreens retain physical buttons for air conditioning, power, volume, menu selection
Gauge cluster center features 3.5-inch monochrome display for the Sport and 7-inch TFT color display for the Sahara and Rubicon models.
Backup camera (visual confirmation)
Parking sensor (visual confirmation)
CB radio pre-wired option (info)
Remote Keyless Entry (info)
Push Button Start (info)
HomeLink garage door controls on sun visors (visual confirmation)
Blind Spot Monitoring system (BSM) (visual confirmation)
Exterior/Roof:
Fold down windshield with two side hinges
Taller, flatter and more raked windshield
Interchangeable soft / hard top
Fully removable roof
Power sliding hardtop (late 2018MY availability) (confirmation)
Power softtop (see below)
True 3-piece hardtop
Optional hardtop glass panel (rumored)
Solid frame, fixed roll cage
Fully removable doors
Turn signal on side mirrors
New larger front bumper design
Larger upright grille with kinked slats
Headlights curve into outer grille slats
Longer / flatter hood
Hood latch position moved forward
Vent and boomerang styling detail on front quarter panels
New pull door handles
Exposed, redesigned (stubbier) door hinges
Taller windows with more rounded corners
Full length drip rails/rain gutter that spans the entire length of the vehicle
Tai lights feature wrap-around design
Rubicon hood with black vents flanking a center hump
Rubicon model still features rock rails
Spare tire will be mounted 3-4 inches lower to improve rear visibility
Verified terms regarding JL/JLU roof options:
"Single top package"
"Dual top group"
"Hard top"
"Black 3-piece hard top:
"Soft top"
"Freedom panel storage bag"
Verified top options from dealer system (see thread):
Black 3-Piece Hard Top
Body Color 3-Piece Hard Top
Premium Black Sunrider Soft Top
Premium Tan Sunrider Soft Top
Premium Black Soft Top
Premium Tan Soft Top
Black Power Soft Top
Colors:
Following colors may not be a full list
PAU – Granite Crystal Metallic Clear Coat
PJD – Acid Yellow Clear Coat
PRC – Firecracker Red
PSC – Billet Silver Metallic Clear Coat
PW7 – Bright White Clear Coat
PX8 – Black Clear Coat
PY5 – Nacho Clear Coat
Light Green and Blue were also mentioned in a dealer meeting
Packages:
Technology Group
LED Lighting Group
Convenience Group
Cold Weather Group
Heavy Duty Electrical Group
Electronic Infotainment System Group
Dual Top Group
Safety Group
Steel Bumper Group
Smoker’s Group
Interior:
New dashboard design with more angle and lower height for better visibility (see interior images)
Grab handles mounted on A-pillar and B-pillar (visual confirmation)
Redesigned physical hand lever for transfer case and e-brake (visual confirmation)
No ignition switch (JL Wrangler features push button start) (visual confirmation)
New, more concave steering wheel (visual confirmation)
Heated steering wheel (visual confirmation)
Four auxiliary control switches (visual confirmation)
Larger trunk space
Manual lumbar support adjustment
Rear passenger HVAC vents placed in back of the front middle console (likely 4-door JLU only)
Seats:
Cloth Low-Back Bucket Seats (Black/Heritage Tan)
Cloth Low-Back Bucket Seats (Black)
Leather Trimmed Bucket Seats (Black/Heritage Tan)
Leather Trimmed Bucket Seats (Black)
Leather Trimmed Bucket Seats (Black/Heritage Tan)
Leather Trimmed Bucket Seats (Black)
Premium Cloth Low-Back Bucket Seats (Black)
Cloth Low-Back Bucket Seats (Black/Heritage Tan)
Cloth Low-Back Bucket Seats (Black)
Interior Options:
MOPAR High Headliner
Trail Rail Management System
MOPAR All-Weather Floor Mats
Soft Top Window Storage Bag
Air Conditioning
Alpine Premium Audio System
Google Android Auto
Apple CarPlay
SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Jeep Trail Rated Kit
Other Options:
2.72:1 Selec-Trac Full Time 4WD System
Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle
Remote Proximity Keyless Entry
Remote Keyless Entry
Engine Block Heater
Remote Start System
Wheels/Tires
245/75R17 tires standard on Sport trim
LT285/70/R17 tires standard on Rubicon trim.
255/70R18 All Terrain Tires
245/75R17 All Season Tires
245/75R17 All-Terrain Tires
255/70R18 All-Terrain Tires
LT285/70R17C OWL Off-Road Tires
245/75R17 All Terrain Tires
17” x 7.5” Polished Granite Crystal Wheels
17” x 7.5” Tech Silver Aluminum Wheels
17” x 7.5” Black Wheels with Polished Lip
18” x 7.5” Tech Gray Polished Face Wheels
Lighting (See Thread For More Info)
Daytime Running Lamps will have LED accents
LED fog lamps
LED reflector headlamps
LED tail lamps
LED turn signals (in fenders)
Ambient LED interior lighting
Illuminated cupholders
Axles / Suspension
JL Sport (standard)
M186 Front Axle / Next Generation Dana 44 HD Rear Axle
JL Sahara (standard)
205MM Front Axle / Next Generation Dana 44 HD Rear Axle
JL Rubicon (standard)
Dana M210 Wide Front Axle / Dana M220 Wide Rear Axle
JL Sahara (optional package)
205MM Front Axle / Dana M220 Rear Axle
CV joints on front axle of Selec-Trac (AWD) models
U-joints on front axle of Rubicon
Steering
Electro-hydraulic steering (see thread for more info)
Telescoping / tilt steering wheel column (see thread for more info)
Miscellaneous
JLU has a longer wheelbase than JKU
Most current (JK/JKU) aftermarket parts will fit
Lug tool is now in metric
2017-18 Wrangler (Toledo) Assembly Plants Schedule
Current: TSP (Toledo Supplier Park - Toledo South)
Building 2017 JK Wranglers until 9/30/2017
Will build 2018 JK Wranglers starting 10/02/2017 until 3/30/2018
Will shut down starting 3/31/2018 for an estimated 3-4 months or longer to retool for the 2019 JT Pickup
Future: TNAP (Toledo North Assembly Plant)
Currently building 2017 Jeep Cherokee KL until 4/07/2017
Plant will shut down from 4/08/2017 until November 2017 to prepare for Wrangler JL production
All-New Wrangler JL will launch 11/13/2017
Tornado al discorso elettronica, caro Dirty, visto che tu sicuramente l'inglese lo mastichi bene, se ti lamentavi dell'elettronica del JK, con questo ti metti a piangere
Più che altro una domanda tecnica:
Visto che il JL Sahara Unlimited sarà un AWD permanente, davanti come si può notare monterà i semiassi omocinetici, non è che magari si riesce a fare il cambio sul 30, per evitare di tenere il solito sistema a crociera? So già di chi ha fatto sto giochetto sul 30 del TJ coi semiassi dell ZJ.
Anche se mi sembra di capire che Sport e Sahara, quindi forse non sono compatibili?
Notare che il Rubicon, almeno in USA, esce di serie con le 285, se mai fosse così anche in italia sicuro a libretto pure gli altri hanno le 285, ma dubito che le avrà.
Comunque un altro difetto, la ruota di scorta l'hanno abbassata di una decina di centrimetri quasi per migliorare la visuale, vero che molti già la tolgono, ma sicuramente se si comincia a fare offroad serio va tolta immediatamente, visto che già erano costosi alcuni danni sul JK, sul JL sicuramente i prezzi lieviteranno.
.... voi direte ..ma mica l'hai provato ?....ma ha 290 cv !!!....si è vero ...ma chi mastica un po di meccanica sa che un motore sovralimentato con il turbo non è privo di difetti ...il più grande sarà la coppia .... un motore turbo per iniziare a tirare deve raggiungere un certo numero di giri in modo da mandare in pressione la turbina ....quindi da 0 a 2.5 3.0 giri se non di più che la turbina va in pressione il motore è praticamente morto ... quindi tiro e coppia pari a 0 !!!
quelle staccano veramente i tacchetti ... calcola che da 1000 giri a 4500 il contagiri sale come quello di una moto da cross 